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The new 4600 series consists of three tractors, the 80-horsepower 4608, the 90-horsepower 4609, and the 100-horsepower 4610. The series is a replacement for the venerable HD series tractors, though there are differences that make a direct comparison difficult. First, the powerplant used in the 4600 series is markedly different. Whereas the HD series was powered by four-cylinder Perkins engines, Tier IV EPA emissions requirements mandated changes that could not have been incorporated to the design footprint.

1. May 1, 2015 - Rated on MF4608 Tractor with 9.5-24 Front Tires. In de pend ent Foot Pedal Operation. Air Suspended Seat - Manual Adjustment.
2. 2013 Massey Ferguson 4608 Power Shuttle Cab Tractor. A hand lever in the right hand console gives the 3-point hitch a manual feel while. The integration of the joystick into the console keeps the design smooth and makes operation easy.

Massey Ferguson took the opportunity to completely redesign the 4600 series, beginning with all-new three-cylinder AGCO powerplants that make equivalent power (HD Series made 81/91/97 peak horsepower) and are Tier IV compliant without the need for particulate filtration. Open center hydraulic system An open center hydraulic system with gear-type pump delivers 65 lpm of total flow to the implement hydraulics, so loader and implement cycling times are faster, increasing productivity. Independent Rear PTO The independent rear PTO on every model is engaged electro-hydraulically via a simple twist-knob, and features a wet multi-disc clutch that’s exceptionally durable, to ensure long service life. Two PTO speeds are standard: 540/540E RPM with standard 13/8 inch 6-spline shaft. Electronic rear 3-point hitch Our electronic rear 3-point hitch features electronic positioning and draft control. Adjustable lower link arms with extendable category II hook ends have a lift capacity of 2500 kg. An optional high-lift kit increases the lift capacity to 3300 kg.

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A hand lever in the right hand console gives the 3-point hitch a manual feel while providing electronic precision. All it takes is a simple, intuitive motion to raise or lower the implement. Draft sensing is also standard equipment. An optional factory-installed loader joystick The integration of the joystick into the console keeps the design smooth and makes operation easy. And hydraulic valves at the tractor’s mid-point simplify loader connection. Remote hydraulic valves The MF4600 Series features two rear remote valves as standard equipment. However, there is an option of up to three rear remote valves for powering implements and attachments.

The rear valves are mechanically operated with control levers located in the right hand console. (Source – http://www.tractor.com/manufacturers/massey-ferguson/2013-massey-ferguson-4608-power-shuttle-cab-tractor-review-1582.html).

Fergie - what a mess! Sorry to see it.

I have a 2011 MF2660 here in the states and it took me 3 yrs to get all the bugs out. I am very happy with it now. Back to your 4608: 1) A friend here has a 4608.

His only significant problem in 3yrs ownership was the 'aggressive shuttle.' His dealer (actually in a fairly remote area in the US with nearest dealer 80 miles away) came to his farm and and did what I heard was an 'adjustment' for the response of the shuttle. As I recall there is a sensitivity adjustment for the engagement of the shuttle. Like yours, it was lurching when using the power shuttle (he said bad enough to damage equipment he thought) prior to the adjustment. It has been OK since that. 2) There was known design deficiency with the 4600's when they first came out regarding insufficient power steering force.

It worked fine until you were in mud with a heavy load on the front end and then would not turn the wheels until you moved the tractor some. I heard there was a change at some date and later deliveries of the 4600's had more power steering strength.

It was not a catastrophic problem but a lot of people were unhappy. I know one dealer who refused to accept any more machines until the steering issue was corrected. 3) Based on your lengthy description there are several things that seem clear. A) You have incompetent people working on your tractor.

I personally doubt there was any reason to break it in half in the first place and secondly, returning it to you with things so 'tight' that it would not operate normally is just beyond absurd. B) There has been so much wrong that I think you need to leave the tractor at the dealer and refuse to accept it until all issues are fixed. In this country the AGCO regional reps are the ones who really resolve such issues and tell the dealer what AGCO will pay, what the dealer has to do, and what if anything you have to pay. Insist on direct conversation with that regional rep.

4) Your loader issue is really a totally separate one I think. Almost certainly the loader valve is at fault.

Certainly a competent dealer would already have put gauges on the lines and determined whether you have correct pressures entering the cylinders. If you do have correct pressures I would bet the loader will lift huge loads, far more than your YouTube video shows.

If you elect to keep the tractor and try to resolve some of these things yourself, then go direct by phone to the loader valve manufacturer and discuss the behavior. My 2660 using a DL250 loader refused to tip the bucket downward by force enough to lift the tractor. AGCO replaced the loader valve twice with defective valves out of their stock without ever going back to the source (!!!) I finally fixed it myself by installing a kit from the mfr of the valve. Overall, my recommendation is that you involve the AGCO regional Rep as soon as possible, demand that all the problems be corrected, discuss/suggest him finding a competent dealer (since yours has proven to be incompetent) and go from there. Make sure all this is done before your guarantee runs out. Here the loaders are only guaranteed for one year. I have no idea what your laws are like down under but if AGCO does not resolve it to reasonable satisfaction as I described above it is time to find a good lawyer and force the issue.

Fergie - what a mess! Sorry to see it. I have a 2011 MF2660 here in the states and it took me 3 yrs to get all the bugs out.

I am very happy with it now. Back to your 4608: 1) A friend here has a 4608. His only significant problem in 3yrs ownership was the 'aggressive shuttle.' His dealer (actually in a fairly remote area in the US with nearest dealer 80 miles away) came to his farm and and did what I heard was an 'adjustment' for the response of the shuttle. As I recall there is a sensitivity adjustment for the engagement of the shuttle. Like yours, it was lurching when using the power shuttle (he said bad enough to damage equipment he thought) prior to the adjustment.

It has been OK since that. 2) There was known design deficiency with the 4600's when they first came out regarding insufficient power steering force. It worked fine until you were in mud with a heavy load on the front end and then would not turn the wheels until you moved the tractor some. I heard there was a change at some date and later deliveries of the 4600's had more power steering strength. It was not a catastrophic problem but a lot of people were unhappy.

I know one dealer who refused to accept any more machines until the steering issue was corrected. 3) Based on your lengthy description there are several things that seem clear.

A) You have incompetent people working on your tractor. I personally doubt there was any reason to break it in half in the first place and secondly, returning it to you with things so 'tight' that it would not operate normally is just beyond absurd. B) There has been so much wrong that I think you need to leave the tractor at the dealer and refuse to accept it until all issues are fixed. In this country the AGCO regional reps are the ones who really resolve such issues and tell the dealer what AGCO will pay, what the dealer has to do, and what if anything you have to pay. Insist on direct conversation with that regional rep. 4) Your loader issue is really a totally separate one I think. Almost certainly the loader valve is at fault.

Certainly a competent dealer would already have put gauges on the lines and determined whether you have correct pressures entering the cylinders. If you do have correct pressures I would bet the loader will lift huge loads, far more than your YouTube video shows. If you elect to keep the tractor and try to resolve some of these things yourself, then go direct by phone to the loader valve manufacturer and discuss the behavior. My 2660 using a DL250 loader refused to tip the bucket downward by force enough to lift the tractor. AGCO replaced the loader valve twice with defective valves out of their stock without ever going back to the source (!!!) I finally fixed it myself by installing a kit from the mfr of the valve. Overall, my recommendation is that you involve the AGCO regional Rep as soon as possible, demand that all the problems be corrected, discuss/suggest him finding a competent dealer (since yours has proven to be incompetent) and go from there. Make sure all this is done before your guarantee runs out.

Here the loaders are only guaranteed for one year. I have no idea what your laws are like down under but if AGCO does not resolve it to reasonable satisfaction as I described above it is time to find a good lawyer and force the issue.

I am not sure how this will turn out as this is my first attempt at replying to anyone, Noted by someone else I am sorry everything reads as one long sentence I am Dyslexic so it tends to be that way. Well JWR I really thank you that is amazing info you gave me, a couple of things are Agco where the ones directing the software patches and then Agco say that they have some tractors like this and I do believe that it did have to be split only because that was the only thing that fixed it in the end. Second thing is that I had an amazing Tractor before this, I know that sounds really stupid, the loader would lift really well, Power was extremely good, the other faults were annoying but you guys now gear and we work around things that annoy us if enough good things are there and its reasonably safe, My Shuttle was that aggressive that I was pushing fill out on steep Country to claim land and I had to winch the Tactor back from over the edge many times, My work is Earthmoving so thousands of hours on Backhoes, Excavators and everything else you want to mention. That said I survived it but would have liked to give Agco my Dry cleaning bill for things, and not much gets me concerned.

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You have a great deal of knowledge and a couple of things your just a little off with in my Tractor, I don't think when you go through the steering, it wasn't to small but I can tell you I am certain that some how in the cuircutry of the Hydrualics the steering is being robbed of ALL fluid until the Tractor moves enough. I say this becuase Since the Replacement of the O rings in the Clutch pack this tractor is completely a different animal and that is literally true so I will itemise a few facts and see what you can come back with and please remember they are facts not my feelings. I am not following 100% of what you are saying but I think I understand most of it. I can make a couple more comments with very high confidence. 1) The front differential never failed because of lifting with the loader. 2) Carrying some weight on the rear of the tractor while doing loader work is recommended for balance.

The idea that it 'must' carry a weight on the 3pt at all times the loader is being used is pure bullshitt. What does the AGCO rep claim will happen if you do not have a heavy weight on the 3pt?? Either he is grasping for some way to shift blame (and as you say is in 'cover up mode' ) or else he too is incompetent. I'm not quite sure which is worse.

3) About back blading: The dealers and your user's manual and the AGCO reps have been preaching against back blading with the loaders for years. Partly because the loaders were not designed to handle large loads in the reverse direction. And one thing for certain - it has nothing in the world to do with load on the front axle!!!

That is hogwash. I have done back blading with my loader on very hard baked clay soil SO BADLY that I burst one of the steel hydraulic lines putting so much back pressure on the hydraulic cylinder. You are not going to put much more load on anything than that while back blading!!

I replaced the line & nothing else was bothered by it. 4) Whoever said that you should not be doing loader work with 4 wheel drive is grasping to invent a way to blame the user for equipment failures OR he is incompetent enough to actually believe that, OR he is flat stupid.

In any case, that all by itself is a terrible commentary on Massey Ferguson in your area. There are literally hundreds of thousands of similar sized tractors to yours in, John Deere, New Holland, Massey Ferguson and Mahindra world-wide doing HUGE amounts of loader work with 4 wheel drive tractors! Anyone who denies that is nuts.

Given your overall description I would be VERY MUCH afraid to let those same people work on the tractor any more at all. They may have already done nearly irreparable harm. Somehow you need to get above the level of the regional rep from AGCO (who is apparently a disgrace to the company) and get the machine to a good, solid, knowledgeable MF repair shop/dealer - while it is still under warrantee. Otherwise I'm afraid you are about to lose the whole thing. I am not following 100% of what you are saying but I think I understand most of it. I can make a couple more comments with very high confidence.

1) The front differential never failed because of lifting with the loader. 2) Carrying some weight on the rear of the tractor while doing loader work is recommended for balance. The idea that it 'must' carry a weight on the 3pt at all times the loader is being used is pure bullshitt. What does the AGCO rep claim will happen if you do not have a heavy weight on the 3pt??

Either he is grasping for some way to shift blame (and as you say is in 'cover up mode' ) or else he too is incompetent. I'm not quite sure which is worse. 3) About back blading: The dealers and your user's manual and the AGCO reps have been preaching against back blading with the loaders for years. Partly because the loaders were not designed to handle large loads in the reverse direction. And one thing for certain - it has nothing in the world to do with load on the front axle!!! That is hogwash.

I have done back blading with my loader on very hard baked clay soil SO BADLY that I burst one of the steel hydraulic lines putting so much back pressure on the hydraulic cylinder. You are not going to put much more load on anything than that while back blading!! I replaced the line & nothing else was bothered by it.

4) Whoever said that you should not be doing loader work with 4 wheel drive is grasping to invent a way to blame the user for equipment failures OR he is incompetent enough to actually believe that, OR he is flat stupid. In any case, that all by itself is a terrible commentary on Massey Ferguson in your area. There are literally hundreds of thousands of similar sized tractors to yours in, John Deere, New Holland, Massey Ferguson and Mahindra world-wide doing HUGE amounts of loader work with 4 wheel drive tractors! Anyone who denies that is nuts.

Given your overall description I would be VERY MUCH afraid to let those same people work on the tractor any more at all. They may have already done nearly irreparable harm. Somehow you need to get above the level of the regional rep from AGCO (who is apparently a disgrace to the company) and get the machine to a good, solid, knowledgeable MF repair shop/dealer - while it is still under warrantee. Since when would back blading with the FEL put stress on the front differential? If anything it puts less stress on it, aggressive back blading can lift the front axle of off the ground, completely unloading it! The only thing that I can think of that would stress the front differential is driving it on pavement, mine certainly lets me know if I turn on pavement with 4WD engaged, I think most of us here are aware of it. I can't help but think that the maladjusted shuttle shift probably stressed every part of the drivetrain on the tractor and that even if the shuttle shift is fixed that other drivetrain components may fail way before they should under normal conditions.

Thanks so much Mapper, hey can anyone tell me if you can up load a document cause I would love for you guys to see this official letter from Agco Australia so you guys know I am not joking with you and I would love your comments on the real deal, But the kicker is they refused to return my tractor unless I signed this document, Yes it was Agco forcing me to sign this after the 4 week diff repair and 3 weeks waiting for Agco rep to fly for 2 hours each way so I could get my only tractor back and they knew that. I don't think there is any way to upload documents in TractorByNet forums. If it is a letter, you could just photograph the page and then up load the photograph using the 3rd icon from the right in the header above the message you are typing.

You could also scan it and store the document as a jpeg image. A jpeg image can then be uploaded using that same icon third from the right. Astounding that was the Tech Support Manager for all Australia!! This whole thing is incredible. I'd be as polite as you possibly can, but get through to the customer service people in AGCO headquarters wherever that is. You can bet that AGCO corporate does not want this sort of reputation.

I would love for you guys to see this official letter from Agco Australia so you guys know I am not joking with you and I would love your comments on the real deal. But the kicker is they refused to return my tractor unless I signed this document, Yes it was Agco forcing me to sign this after the 4 week diff repair and 3 weeks waiting for Agco rep to fly for 2 hours each way so I could get my only tractor back and they knew that. GarryI have not seen the document and of course do not know the entire situation BUT, it just occurred to me - the best possible outcome might be for them to refuse to return your tractor and you just demand your money back instead of the tractor. I gather this has been going on so long that we are talking 'fair market value' for a used machine in good operating condition with that number of hours on it and that year of manufacture. If the tractor is as badly screwed up as it sounds to me like it is, your best outcome may very well be to sell it back to them and let them grapple with the mess.

Put it behind you and go buy a replacement.